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penners28
3:27 Fri Mar 10
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they could always get a job to make up the shortfall?
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Mike Oxsaw
3:23 Fri Mar 10
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I'm certainly calling beard on the council not paying. Which is different from them paying but the recipient not handing it on to the landlord.
I've been involved with a homelessness charity for about a year - not because I'm a fucking do-gooder, but because a friend asked me to help out on the administration side.
Being a nosy bugger, I started to talk with those in the various shelters. Many were there through no fault of their own, some came & went, depending on the weather, some were released ex-cons with nowhere else to go. More than a handful were abuse victims. A few were beyond help.
I gradually got to find out more and more of the way the councils work in this area, and in particular the payment of housing benefit(s) - "s" because there are several, each administered by a different department, each with their own not inconsiderable form(s) to complete, which alone must deter a fair percentage from even bothering to claim what is their legal entitlement.
It IS possible to instruct a council to pay all/any benefit direct to the landlord. In general, though, they try not to do so as a method of preventing rogue landlords claiming that several people are all in the same property (generally a single room). But they WILL do so under a claimant's specific instructions, so there is no excuse for the benefits not reaching the landlord*.
Depending on circumstances, benefits may not cover 100% of the rent, but even then, there are "emergency discretionary funds" available to cover the shortfall, and even several charitable trusts that dole out up to a bag of sand (or more) to help furnish a drum.
Whatever your view on food-banks, they are there to be used by those that need them and some of those newly rehoused out of the shelters do very well. It takes some people a lot to swallow their pride and first use one though, but within the "food bank community", no judgement is made on anybody. Once they cotton on what is on offer, they need no second invitation.
There is NO FUCKING EXCUSE for anyone in receipt of benefits (however administered) to get into rent arrears. Unless they're selfish entitlement gits who "didn't fucking ask to be born, you know"!
* - I think Universal Credit is, for reasons only known to those trying to enforce it on society, clearly trying to stamp this facility out.
Fuck knows why as it keeps many (maybe only just) above the crisis line, but above it, none-the-less.
Maybe those in charge feel the less well off need a damn good educational shock, such as eviction, to turn them into taxpayers (again).
That'll fucking learn 'em.
Only it don't.
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Dwight Van Mann
1:48 Fri Mar 10
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years ago landlords who had a non-paying tenant just paid a Lenny McLean type to go round and politely ask them if they wanted to follow the suitcase they just chucked out the first floor window or walk out the door unaided - seemed to work pretty well back then.
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joe royal
1:39 Fri Mar 10
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It's cunts that rent out multiple houses that push the prices up for the rest of us .
No body should be allowed to own more than two properties,
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Spandex Sidney
1:29 Fri Mar 10
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I had a tenant, she lost her job. She rang me, was honest. I popped round there and agreed that for keeping her deposit (one months rent) she could stay for another three months. Served her with a Section 8 for three months later (just in case). She eventually moved in with a friend owing me 6 weeks rent and leaving the place immaculate. Everyone was happy, even me, I can understand that and chalked it up to experience and respected her honesty.
And then I had another. Paid her first months and a deposit and never heard from again. Had to wait until she was three months in arrears then, because she hadn't left following the Section 21 notice, had to go to court. She argued that there was damp (there wasn't and she'd never raised a concern with me) so that shoved it back a few more months. Eventually she was 7 months in arrears (£4200) before I got the court order. She still didn't leave so another month racked up. Escalated to High Court + enforcement was another £2200 and a few hundred quid for locksmith. In total when we got her out she had done me for £7220.
Then we when got in she had trashed the place. months of dirty nappies and old booze bottles everywhere, used tampons, the lot. Cost £600 quid to clear the place then had to spend £7000 on refurbing the place.
Total bill was £14,820. All I got back was her deposit and a months rent (£1200). Turns out she moves from place to place doing this, pocketing all her housing benefit. When I rang the Council they say this is NOT benefit fraud and if she wants to keep her housing benefit and not pay her rent with it it was her business! She had pocketed £3500 in HB while in my house.
As I say, fuck 'em. I have NO sympathy for those that don't pay their rent and do nothing else.
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REALGSA
12:37 Fri Mar 10
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Yesterday saw them take back a house in Ilford. Tenant was still there and fucked the whole house up and ripped the bathroom out.
The landlord/ agent was a bit angry, probably kept it cooler as camera was there.
Vendor will have to fork out the money to repair it all himself!
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Dwight Van Mann
11:59 Fri Mar 10
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watched one a few weeks ago and some silly cunt let a £400 debt rise to nearly 2 grand with court and enforcement fees.
Had to get his father in law to whack it on is credit card or they were taking his van.
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Westside
11:53 Fri Mar 10
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The only time i have sympathy, for those on the receiving end of the bailiffs, is when somebody unconnected to the case (e,g debtor's landlord, who isn't named on the writ), is living in the same gaff, has to prove to the bailiffs that their personal possessions are theirs's and not the debtor's. The bailiffs should have to prove that possessions' belong to the debtor.
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mashed in maryland
11:13 Fri Mar 10
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These people aren't technically bailiffs are they?
Was under the impression that High Court Enforcement Agents work completely differently from Bailiffs.
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Trevor B
11:08 Fri Mar 10
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bloody hell, she could easily get banged up for blocking off fire escapes!
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penners28
11:08 Fri Mar 10
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I used to be one mate. they are not all bad.
the issue is I know from personal experience that there are some genuine cases out there, but people should always pay their rent first. if they cant afford the rent then maybe downsize or move to an area they can afford?
I know that's harsh but it's not really the landlord's problem. people forget that some landlords dont own the property lock stock either, and they have a mortgage to pay their end as well.
plus, before it gets to bailiff stage there is ample opportunity for a debtor to resolve the issue.
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martyboy
11:05 Fri Mar 10
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Trevor B. The reason for that comment was the landlady was trying to force him to move out as she had a planning application to extend, and modernise the flats. They were in a poor state. And All the tenants were receiving help from the council with the rents. She wanted them all out, so changed/move dates, and payment methods so as the tenants were forced into arrears. At present she has a probation notice on the flats, as she has had builders brick up windows, and block off fire escapes. The council are taking her to court!!
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martyboy
11:00 Fri Mar 10
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Penners, but see this from both sides, how would you feel if some big bloke (Bailiffs are normally intimidating) is standing on your door step telling you they are about the come into your home and forcefully remove your personal stuff? not all people being evicted are scum of the earth. Some have no other options, than to feed there kids, and fuck the landlord off!! I know where my last few quid would go if I was arse. On par with Traffic wardens, no sympathy for them.
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Trevor B
10:59 Fri Mar 10
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martyboy
why did you describe the landlady as dodgy when it was down to the council not paying their % of the rent?
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penners28
10:49 Fri Mar 10
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what I dont understand when people accuse bailiffs of being cunts is that how would you want them to act IF you had instructed them to collect money, or evict someone, on your behalf?
would you be happy them going in all nicey nicey then telling you they didnt collect anything, or the people who havnt paid you rent for 6 mths are still living in the property rent free?
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sidneyshitcunt
10:14 Fri Mar 10
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I've been evicted by Paul Bohill and he's a fucking cunt.
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martyboy
7:57 Fri Mar 10
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Spandex you know fuck all about my brothers situation. IF you would of asked politely I would of told you that the council which pays towards his rent had not been paying there share, he first found out about it when the old bill turned up, with an arrest warrant. scum in the block he lived in used to nick, burn mail. And as I said when the bailiffs turn they were bulling cunts. Shame you Spandex was not the landlord, would of done us all a favour if you would of popped around there to get your grubby hands on the rent!!
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Spandex Sidney
12:48 Fri Mar 10
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There is no good reason. Withholding rent and you lose your bargaining position. I've got some rental properties and I've had a couple of bad tenants and they always have 'good' reasons for not paying the rent like buying a new TV or going on holiday. They always have Sky and the latest iPhone.
Plus the CUNT wired the handle up to the fucking mains! That could have killed someone, what if a kiddie was the otherside playing?
I have no sympathy for people who think they can live in other people's houses for free, you should be able to wait till they go out and change the locks, just like the States. These leeches know all their 'rights' and play the system and keep the money.
Sounds like a MASSIVE cunt to me
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bruuuno
12:42 Fri Mar 10
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Spandex - maybe he had good reason for not paying the rent?
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bruuuno
12:41 Fri Mar 10
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*£2k compensation
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bruuuno
12:41 Fri Mar 10
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I went into the back of an Asian women at 5 mph once, never heard anything more about it until about 18 months later when I got a knock at the door from the baliifs looking to seize £3k of my stuff. Turns out she'd sued for whiplash and my insurers hadn't sorted it out. Got a CCJ against me and everything. Finally got it rescinded and got £2k after going to the ombudsman
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